Dodgy Dave's Suggestions

[Bobby Shmurda]

Thank Ponty

Hello people of altis. I aint got much time so i need to make this quick. After being "suggested" he has got me hostage please help by Ponty to make a forum discussion about the new dodgy daves I decided to make some suggestions and want some feedback! While we are super happy that we now have new weapons to play around with and the upper class now have something to spend 10million on there has been alot of negative feedback and also good feedback.

Why people dislike the new outpost

First id like to say why I feel some people dislike the new outpost and in my opinion there are 2 or 3 reasons.

1. They are poor, nothing we can do there, 10Million is a great deal for all the weapons you get for a cheap price.

2. The redzone. Now my in initial thought was "This is a RP server why are they adding a huge amount of redzone to the map". After thinking i understood why the staff have added a huge amount of redzone. I for one dont like another redzone being added but if you are going for theses high tier items then there has to be some aspect of danger and I think ive come up with a solution.

3. The redzone covers heroin field. Seen some people complain about this, im personally not a big fan of heroin runs so it dont effect me but i feel like heroin is useless now. There are other ways to make more money and be safer too.

 Solutions

1. If they dont have 10mill then they dont get the licences... Dont lower the price.

2. Personally I and I think alot of other people would prefer if there was no redzone at all, but lets try to come to compromise with the staff they added a redzone for a reason so they wont take it out. Make the redzone smaller, just covering the outpost and the outskirts (2k in all directions idk).

3. Make the redzone smaller, just covering the outpost and the outskirts (2k in all directions idk). This can also help with the people that did heroin runs and make heroin not usless. You can also put the price of heroin up so its more of a high risk high reward kinda thing.

UNMC

Now here me out on this one. Going back to "I for one dont like another redzone being added but if you are going for theses high tier items then there has to be some aspect of danger and I think ive come up with a solution."  UNMC is my solution. I feel the staff added the redzone in for a danger aspect. That danger aspect can be the UNMC. Removing the backmarket completely (if people cry about how they cant get gear without getting killed tell them to git gud). I feel like this can help all the reasons why people dislike the new outpost so much. Removing KOS but still some danger as UNMC can start a fight or other rebel can start a fight, also the heroin runners can do their runs again.

Message me!

If you have any solutions or any other reasons why you think people dislike the outpost feel free, to send me a message and ill add it to this post or just comment down below. Id much prefer that you message me if you are going to give another reason why you dislike the new outpost as i can edit the post and add it in so everyone can see.

pls help ponty still has me hostage

also change the name to doggy bobby (more catchy and just way cooler)

 

[Yello]

Nice post man

 

[Koala Bear]

one way you could do it is that there would be a hm style compound in UNMC lands and with in the compound would be vaults full of high tier weapons or a item that would fill up over time the rebels will have to blow the vault and transport weapons to safe location or trade the item that they got in the vault to some sort of trader in exchange for high tier weapons 

 

[Bobby Shmurda]

one way you could do it is that there would be a hm style compound in UNMC lands and with in the compound would be vaults full of high tier weapons or a item that would fill up over time the rebels will have to blow the vault and transport weapons to safe location or trade the item that they got in the vault to some sort of trader in exchange for high tier weapons 

That would limit the people that can do it. If you are a alone and want a high tier weapon you cant just break into alone. You will need a big gang. Also relying on that there have to be a certain number of UNMC on to do the heist.

A good idea just too many variables. 

 

[Koala Bear]

That would limit the people that can do it. If you are a alone and want a high tier weapon you cant just break into alone. You will need a big gang. Also relying on that there have to be a certain number of UNMC on to do the heist.

A good idea just too many variables. 

i disagree anything stops you from rping it like the bank 

and if you are smart enough you dont need a massive amount of gang mates

and for the number of UNMC i would say something like 7-8

 

[Bobby Shmurda]

i disagree anything stops you from rping it like the bank 

and if you are smart enough you dont need a massive amount of gang mates

and for the number of UNMC i would say something like 7-8

Good idea just not realistic. They made it into a outpost they going to keep it as one.

 

[Koala Bear]

Good idea just not realistic. They made it into a outpost they going to keep it as one.

Expand on how that is not realistic?

 

[Bobby Shmurda]

Expand on how that is not realistic?

They made it into a outpost. It needs to be accessible to everyone. HM is unique. Gangs should not have the option of "do we need money or guns hmmmm, not enough police online so guns it is" or "not enough UNMC online so money it is". Money makes the world go round, if you need money go do a HM then buy guns, not just steal guns, whats the point? Steal guns to sell to make money? If you want to make money go do a HM. They wont do it for the guns because they already need guns to fight off the UNMC. It really is pointless and a waste of time to have a gun fight over guns..

 

[Koala Bear]

not at all because if dodgy daves outpost got removed the only way to get high tier guns would be the UNMC vaults and that would be accessible by a high level of RP or enough firepower to fend off the UNMC and with the high tier guns in there possession they would able to choose what they would do next may that be use the guns to do another UNMC vault job and get more to sell to the people that cant access them or use them to do a HM bank job or anything else they desire having this will also reduce the amount of high caliber rifles on the island make rebels think twice before doing something that may get them killed that also mean less people sitting on a hill 1.5km away and  make them actually come up close and personal which will improve the amount of RP on island   

 

[Hannah Montana]

not at all because if dodgy daves outpost got removed the only way to get high tier guns would be the UNMC vaults and that would be accessible by a high level of RP   

Lol you make me laugh with the first part of your response.

Remove dodgy daves and the only way to get high tier guns is through some UNMC vault , sorry but that has to be the worst idea i have heard.

SO basically by controlling these high tier weapons the UNMC control the gun market.

UNMC have it to easy in my opinion this would make them more over powered than they already are i mean these guys pay next to nothing for vehicles and loadouts anyway.

Adding this would tilt the scales of balance way over the edge biggest -1 sorry

 

[Hololock]

not at all because if dodgy daves outpost got removed the only way to get high tier guns would be the UNMC vaults and that would be accessible by a high level of RP or enough firepower to fend off the UNMC and with the high tier guns in there possession they would able to choose what they would do next may that be use the guns to do another UNMC vault job and get more to sell to the people that cant access them or use them to do a HM bank job or anything else they desire having this will also reduce the amount of high caliber rifles on the island make rebels think twice before doing something that may get them killed that also mean less people sitting on a hill 1.5km away and  make them actually come up close and personal which will improve the amount of RP on island   

So you lot have free reign ? You already number stack like mad and have access to as good if not better equipment  than rebels at no risk and lower cost and all you want is harder for us to get guns ? I am good thanks, leave us rebels be with our first real content update in a while and let us enjoy it. 

 

[Koala Bear]

Lol you make me laugh with the first part of your response.

Remove dodgy daves and the only way to get high tier guns is through some UNMC vault , sorry but that has to be the worst idea i have heard.

SO basically by controlling these high tier weapons the UNMC control the gun market.

UNMC have it to easy in my opinion this would make them more over powered than they already are i mean these guys pay next to nothing for vehicles and loadouts anyway.

Adding this would tilt the scales of balance way over the edge biggest -1 sorry

well i am glad i make you laugh John this is clearly a subject close to heart and i am glad you expressed your opinion in the way you did 

 

[Hannah Montana]

@Koala Bear cant tell if your being serious are not bud but what i say is my personal opinion.

Dont get me wrong i like the idea of a vault just not filled with high tier weapons maybe somthing else like gold are another valuable item just not guns bud its ridiculous.

 

[Koala Bear]

@Koala Bear cant tell if your being serious are not bud but what i say is my personal opinion.

Dont get me wrong i like the idea of a vault just not filled with high tier weapons maybe somthing else like gold are another valuable item just not guns bud its ridiculous.

so as long as you can access 7.62 (high tier weapons) your happy i am sorry but i think rebels get high tier weapons way to easy 

 

[Samatlewis]

Any childish, unconstructive comments will be removed from here on out! ( friendly warning (debate all you like but do it in an adult way with evidence/reasoning behind your points))

With regards to @Koala Bear's comment and the UNMC having a high tier vault it sort of makes sense, seeing as they are an ORGANISED military power that have managed to retain their own lands and their own airstrip/docks.. it would make some sense for them to have a form of weapons vault? BUT going by MY (NOT anyone else in the staff team's) current understanding of UNMC laws there would be very minimal chance of even getting into it without being executed (if you can get executed for an insult you will definitely be executed for ROBBING a high value weapons vault?( UNMC please try and understand my perspective, if you feel I am out of line please let me know ) also @Koala Bear that's probably a better suggestion on its own merits than linked to this!

However I also see @TCK John Dillinger'S point of you controlling the gun market if Koala's suggestion would be implemented (UNMc would have the high tier guns and the rebels would have their pea shooters) so it would definitely throw the scales.

Too tired to comment on the actual threads suggestions right now!

 

[Koala Bear]

(UNMc would have the high tier guns and the rebels would have their pea shooters)

I wouldnt regard 6.5 or 5.56 as peashooter also if they were to attack the vault there would only be 2 soldiers using 7.62 in the DMU role so really they would be up against the same firepower if they were to attack

HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD

all rebels have to do now is log onto server 1 check if there is anyone at the dealer if so log off log on to server 2 gear up while there is no one there then log off and log back on to server 1 and play its way to easy for rebels to get high tier weapons  

 

[Pilatus344]

+1 on nerfing the curent redzones.

-1 on all the UNMC suggestions. they already have it too OP. Rather buff the rebels and cops. has they need it more too deal with unmc

 

[Hololock]

+1 on nerfing the curent redzones.

-1 on all the UNMC suggestions. they already have it too OP. Rather buff the rebels and cops. has they need it more too deal with unmc

Dont need anything but what we got now to deal with  them.

I wouldnt regard 6.5 or 5.56 as peashooter also if they were to attack the vault there would only be 2 soldiers using 7.62 in the DMU role so really they would be up against the same firepower if they were to attack

HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD

all rebels have to do now is log onto server 1 check if there is anyone at the dealer if so log off log on to server 2 gear up while there is no one there then log off and log back on to server 1 and play its way to easy for rebels to get high tier weapons  

Even easier for you lot to get em as you don't have to go redzone and spawn in front of the vendor with cheep vehicles anytime you want them. So by this logic remove UNMC weapons and let rebels protect a vault of weapons to give you some more risk for more reward ?

 

[Ciaran]

2. The redzone. Now my in initial thought was "This is a RP server why are they adding a huge amount of redzone to the map". After thinking i understood why the staff have added a huge amount of redzone. I for one dont like another redzone being added but if you are going for theses high tier items then there has to be some aspect of danger and I think ive come up with a solution.

2. Personally I and I think alot of other people would prefer if there was no redzone at all, but lets try to come to compromise with the staff they added a redzone for a reason so they wont take it out. Make the redzone smaller, just covering the outpost and the outskirts (2k in all directions idk).

Correct, it was added for the danger aspect only, not to make an RDM zone just for the lols.