Childish Arguments 'The Ghost Cartel'

[Shanksy88]

I dont really know how to start this sort of post off as i've stayed quiet throughout any argument to do with 'The Ghost Cartel' and Wilco, being a member of Gc ive seen first hand all the stupid childish arguments started by both sides. I'm not here to ask @Wilcoto unban anyone because at this point no one cares but this situation with Scott has gotten extremely out of hand. Im a friend of Scotts and he cares about the server just as much as anyone else but please dont jump too conclusions when im saying this that you think im defending stuff he has done. Prank calls, abusive language etc. is obviously out of order and extremely childish but he proved pretty clearly that he can RP and follow rules as im sure you know that he managed to become a member of the police recently, if that doesnt prove he can contribute to the server i dont know what does. As ive already said im not asking for Scott to get unbanned but maybe a grown up conversation would go a long way instead of all these indirect comments. Just an opinion of course that not everyone will agree with.

 

[Samatlewis]

I'm sorry but how the fuck can anyone trust such a deceitful piece of shit that keeps coming back to where he's not wanted? He is constantly causing problem via prank calls and harassment of community members. 

Anyone who tries to get around a ban gets banned on their new account. Seeing as you're friends with him you should know that it's pathetic for him to continuously come back. 

 

[KevinP]

I dont really know how to start this sort of post off as i've stayed quiet throughout any argument to do with 'The Ghost Cartel' and Wilco, being a member of Gc ive seen first hand all the stupid childish arguments started by both sides. I'm not here to ask @Wilcoto unban anyone because at this point no one cares but this situation with Scott has gotten extremely out of hand. Im a friend of Scotts and he cares about the server just as much as anyone else but please dont jump too conclusions when im saying this that you think im defending stuff he has done. Prank calls, abusive language etc. is obviously out of order and extremely childish but he proved pretty clearly that he can RP and follow rules as im sure you know that he managed to become a member of the police recently, if that doesnt prove he can contribute to the server i dont know what does. As ive already said im not asking for Scott to get unbanned but maybe a grown up conversation would go a long way instead of all these indirect comments. Just an opinion of course that not everyone will agree with.

From what I saw, the only "childish" thing in that argument on the forums was what Scott did... I don't think he'd ever be welcomed back after going to the extent of calling peoples personal phone numbers...

 

[Shanksy88]

As i said i'm not defending anything he has done nor am i justifying it but lets be honest things he got banned for previously on servers everyone has done before and just not got caught. Also the part saying he is unwanted is exactly what i mean, if he had a mature conversation apologizing etc. you would probably look at him differently. 

 

[Gord]

He apparently also called someone while they were at work, that is not only not OK but extremely rude and invasive taking someones phone number and I believe called harassment and possibly even stalking since he is doing it to multiple members of the community. 

 

[Wilco]

The talking time with Scott is over, He was found playing under another account today after prank calling people this week.

The other night someone from the management team as a last attempt to get Scott to stop his antics was contact his father on facebook, It seems so far that has done little so our next step is the Police.

Scott's actions cannot be defended, I am not willing to talk to someone who behaves like that... and I or anyone from the management or staff team shouldn't have to! We are all very busy and id rather our time was spent improving this community not dealing with people like that.

As i said i'm not defending anything he has done nor am i justifying it but lets be honest things he got banned for previously on servers everyone has done before and just not got caught. Also the part saying he is unwanted is exactly what i mean, if he had a mature conversation apologizing etc. you would probably look at him differently. 

No... no we wont, Read above our next step is the Police and we have enough evidence for them to pay him a visit.

 

[Neo]

Want to know his actions whilst playing under is new account?

Restrained someone as a cop and dropped them out the window....

So, yeah, this is someone you're sticking up for?

 

[WhoisDan]

As i said i'm not defending anything he has done nor am i justifying it but lets be honest things he got banned for previously on servers everyone has done before and just not got caught. Also the part saying he is unwanted is exactly what i mean, if he had a mature conversation apologizing etc. you would probably look at him differently. 

I'm sorry mate but I severely doubt a 'mature conversation' is going to happen. With everything he's done how can you claim that he cares about ALUK? He's a contributing factor to why we had to raise our teamspeak security. He had a very slim chance when he was told to re-appeal in 6 months when he made his ban appeal (and to be honest he was very lucky to even be given permission to try again in 6 months imo) but he blew it. I appreciate that he's your friend and you want to be able to play with him, but with the trouble he's caused I think it's almost a certain he's never coming back here.