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brentolento-unban appeal (Unbanned 25/05/15)

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brentolento

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Your In-game name: Brentolento

Your Steam Profile ID:http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051588102/

Your GUID : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Brentolento

Date & Time you was banned: 20/05/2015   16:20

Please copy and paste the rule you broke: Hacking

Please give reasons why we should give you a final chance:

Hi,

when i joined the server a message said that i was banned for 'Rahim ammo'.

I don't even know what these words are of mean. is the a way to check in the logs?). A guy Marshall was banned too, A friend of him selled me a gun that was normal to me so he is the hacker. I just bought the gun from him and i didn't know that he was a hacker!

Can you please take a look for me?

Greets,

Brent Spruyt

 
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Yeah i was there with him when he bought it. A guy named Remo Kushner sold it to him for 140k. Unban him please hes my only friend on the server

 
Brentolento - you were spotted *in* the logfiles... that's how I detected you. You were handling or spawning ammo for a particular gun (Rahim) which is not available on this server. The ammo was most likely spawned by Marshall L (also banned - and who has confessed to me by PM that he was hacking). The ammo was probably given to Remo Kushner (who has confessed to me on TS that he was receiving illegally-created ammo from Marshall, and profiting from hacking/cheating, although this was all done by Marshall L, not him personally). Remo Kushner has been selling the ammo to people - in theory though, that ammo *should* be useless in all weapons legally obtained on this server, so if you were finding a use for it, then something is very wrong. Evidently he sold you the gun as well (possibly hacked to use any ammo, or maybe just a Rahim gun, which is illegal).

It's possible you were an innocent fool who was duped by a hacker gang into buying something that the logs recorded as hostile. However, I'm going to take this under advisement - the admins will have a discussion about whether to unban you or not, and you'll be notified in due course. Don't expect a quick result, though - we are currently dealing with the fallout from this incident which has affected other players on this server.

Moral of the story is, buy your guns from people you really, really trust, or direct from the gun-shops. Ignorance is not normally a defence in UK Law in real life, and it's not much different here... the long-and-short of it is that you were discovered by logfile as adding that illegal ammo to yourself or your gun, and it is impossible for us ever to be 100% sure that you didn't hack it into the game yourself. You could just by trying to lean on our good nature, and let you back in to the game, whereupon you might spawn it again (if you have the power).

You'd be well-advised to give us the *full* story of how you came by this gun and ammo - names, places, times - as much as you can remember. Honesty *may* be your only saving grace here...

 
Hi,

I fully understand the problem. You can't know if i am an innocent or a hacker , so this is the story:

I was going to the iron trader with my truck full of iron to sell it all. My friend alminoo (he is a friend in real life so i completely trust him) said to me that a gang member of the gang he was in, was selling weapons (Remo Kushner) Alminoo told me he stood at the iron trader to sell the rifle. I selled all my iron and with the money i bought the rifle for 140K with mag. I logged some time later of on 20/05/2015 when i came online the next day , i was banned...

I realy hope you can give me one more chance this is the best altis life server so it would be terrible if i couldn't play on it anymore. Il never buy things from people i don't know.

Greets,
Brentolento


 
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Hi, my name is Alminoo (His friend)

Remo Kushner told me he wanted to sell his gun ( i didnt know rahim ammo was illegal) so i wanted to make some quick cash. 

So at that moment i was skyping with Brentolento and asked him if he wanted to buy the gun. So he wanted to buy it and i told Remo then we went to the iron trader and sold it to him. then we all went to the airport and the next day they were all banned. Brentolento didnt know it was illegal so dont blame him and dont blame me as well because i didnt know either. Please unban him hes my only friend on the server which i play with. So unban him please

Greetings, 

Alminoo

 
Ah, cool. I actually came on this morning to deal with this one, Vlad (and got sidetracked by your other pings and pokes to me! LOL)

I think on balance, I'm going to give Brentolento one more chance... but with conditions.

Firstly, in RL, ignorance is usually no defence against the law - you do a crime, you do the time, whether you know it was criminal or not. However, I have heard an amount of evidence (offline) from two of the parties involved, and am reasonably confident that Brentolento was conned into purchasing a rifle that he didn't realise was hacked in. For that reason alone, I am prepared - just this one time - to give him a second chance.

However, the incident raises some questions. Alminoo's relationship with the gang (despite him claiming that Brentolento is his only friend), is slightly worrying, because that gang contained at least one known, self-confessed hacker (Marshall L) who was hacking in weapons for Remo Kushner (who may also have been partly duped, but is nowhere near as innocent as Brentolento was, and that's by Remo's own confession of awareness that Marshall L was at least 'dodgy' with his rifle handovers and some other activities on the server).

So... the question raised is whether Alminoo knew what this gang was up to - was he offered any rifles, or did he take part in any of Marshall L's retribution hacks (exploding people who crossed him). If he was, why didn't he mention this to admin or report them on the forum? I'd like to hear more from Alminoo - currently he is on my list of people to be watched closely, simply by association with this gang.

The moral of this story is, if you see something unusual on the server, or become aware that someone - even someone in your own gang - is hacking or exploiting, you *must* notify the admins or make a forum report, or you run the risk of being deemed to be involved yourself. The punishment may well be a ban - sometimes an irreversible one. It's not just about the letter of the server-law, here; finding you in the logs with hacked weapons is one thing, and will normally get you banned on the spot (as was the case with Brentolento), but sometimes just being a silent partner to wrong-doings on the server is enough to get a perma-ban too. We run a community based upon trust here; people play this game for pleasure, roleplay, excitement, and work against rules that make the game hard enough already. People who are untrustworthy or who harbour cheaters, simply make life more difficult for everyone, and ruin the enjoyment, so we try our level best to terminate them all with extreme prejudice. Not because we are badmins, but because we are trying to protect the genuinely, totally innocent players in this community who play wholly by the rules.

Brentolento can be unbanned, when Alminoo has spilled a little more about this gang - Who else was in it? How many times did they pull this rifle-selling stunt? Was he aware of Marshall L, and did he see anything 'unusual' he'd like to tell us about? Time for you to sing, for your friend's life... and quite possibly, your own...

 
I have unbanned you but you should read what the wise man has written above. There are no further chances here.

 
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