A new direction for gangs

[KennethZoid]

I have been a part of this community for around a year now. I have been in a gang/organisation the entire time. Apostles and Coalition. Having been around for quite a while and meeting every gang I have noticed that only 2 currently serve a real purpose in the server. These two are The Lost and The Firm. But what if we started to give more gangs a purpose and could create huge RP stories. Here are some examples I have thought about… (Haven't spoken to any of these gangs it's just primarily for examples)

One example could be the LC9 Software to rob banks. With (hopefully) the return of fleecas and humane labs, I'm sure LC9 software will be needed a lot more. If one/two gangs had the access to this rather than just going to life invader, it could bring a whole new aspect to the RP of robbing a bank.

Another example could be dirty money. So when you rob a bank or drug deal you are given dirty money, like you used to back when the server started. This creates so many opportunities for roleplay, deciding outcomes of “wars” or big money making schemes.

There are also obvious question marks over whether these gangs will still have access to “Gus”. Well, I personally think Gus should be given to 3 of the more street kinda gangs. This will create a lot of tension between the 3 gangs and will again create good RP over whose prices are lower etc..

I also had another suggestion of a gang who can fix broken guns. Although I think this may be a bit of a stretch if I'm honest.

At the end of the day people won't be happy because they will lose money and business within RP but money shouldn't be everything. It should be roleplay over money any day of the week.

These are all just examples but I do think this could create a lot of good roleplay. We all know The Lost and The Firm set the standard for roleplay due to having these roles. Hopefully if this is implemented then others will start to roleplay to a much higher standard.

A lot of people will obviously have very different opinions to me but I look forward to reading them and seeing what people think.

 

[Chuck Greenhorn]

I have been a part of this community for around a year now. I have been in a gang/organisation the entire time. Apostles and Coalition. Having been around for quite a while and meeting every gang I have noticed that only 2 currently serve a real purpose in the server. These two are The Lost and The Firm. But what if we started to give more gangs a purpose and could create huge RP stories. Here are some examples I have thought about… (Haven't spoken to any of these gangs it's just primarily for examples)

One example could be the LC9 Software to rob banks. With (hopefully) the return of fleecas and humane labs, I'm sure LC9 software will be needed a lot more. If one/two gangs had the access to this rather than just going to life invader, it could bring a whole new aspect to the RP of robbing a bank.

Another example could be dirty money. So when you rob a bank or drug deal you are given dirty money, like you used to back when the server started. This creates so many opportunities for roleplay, deciding outcomes of “wars” or big money making schemes.

There are also obvious question marks over whether these gangs will still have access to “Gus”. Well, I personally think Gus should be given to 3 of the more street kinda gangs. This will create a lot of tension between the 3 gangs and will again create good RP over whose prices are lower etc..

I also had another suggestion of a gang who can fix broken guns. Although I think this may be a bit of a stretch if I'm honest.

At the end of the day people won't be happy because they will lose money and business within RP but money shouldn't be everything. It should be roleplay over money any day of the week.

These are all just examples but I do think this could create a lot of good roleplay. We all know The Lost and The Firm set the standard for roleplay due to having these roles. Hopefully if this is implemented then others will start to roleplay to a much higher standard.

A lot of people will obviously have very different opinions to me but I look forward to reading them and seeing what people think.

I like this. One problem i could see with this is. Some people have a way too big ego in RP and it would end up with one gang controlling it in a way that would make it not as much for the others. Another thing is I would like to see is more opportunities for people who are NOT in a gang. Right now everyone depends on gangs. If you wanna do big bank you depend on the c4 (only one way to get it). Maybe smaller crimes available to non gang members and that you get something out of it which they could sell to gangs.. example would be like the lc69 or the materials.. Giving one gang complete control over one thing could bring a lot of issues thats all I know.

 

[Atles]

Honestly, these are some great ideas, but I see a major issue with it.

There is a reason why The Lost and The Firm have access to content the gangs do not have access to, they are not Gangs. The Gang RP on the server needs a major rework. From the ground up for a possibility for this to even work. Not to say all of their role play is awful, but there has to some room to rework how they conduct themselves in my opinion. 

We all know of a community that gives out some of these items you have listed via in game tasks, Like robbing a 7/11 for a chance of said items to progress in the criminal task. Which then gives you a chance to get another item at a small bank, Which then leads up to the larger bank.  I believe something like this would be a better method. Instead of a gang running it. Its more fair.

Dirty money could be ran through the casino to give more of a reason to go there. 

 

[Price - Robz]

Both the points made by stumpy and chuck is exactly what i was thinking, in terms of how gangs are right now, ego plays a huge aspect and instead of thinking of the business side they will use their power in a negative way and a lot of clash will fall from it, so in terms of gangs having power/purpose it will need to be trusted to them and essentially leaving it to whitelisted factions like the firm and lost mc makes sense, however there should be a trial and gangs should have the chance. Simply put noone will know the outcome, another thing being is wars will have so much more to it and a better rp behind it as fighting any gangs could affect business and will have to have a serious thought about it. All in all its something that could change the server and for the better of it and ofc it its not it could easily be reverted. 

 

[Chuck Greenhorn]

Honestly, these are some great ideas, but I see a major issue with it.

There is a reason why The Lost and The Firm have access to content the gangs do not have access to, they are not Gangs. The Gang RP on the server needs a major rework. From the ground up for a possibility for this to even work. Not to say all of their role play is awful, but there has to some room to rework how they conduct themselves in my opinion. 

We all know of a community that gives out some of these items you have listed via in game tasks, Like robbing a 7/11 for a chance of said items to progress in the criminal task. Which then gives you a chance to get another item at a small bank, Which then leads up to the larger bank.  I believe something like this would be a better method. Instead of a gang running it. Its more fair.

Dirty money could be ran through the casino to give more of a reason to go there. 

I could see some stuff being limited to some gangs. Like gus not being available for anyone or some other type of drugs available for certain gangs. I personally hate the fact that even as a normal gang member right now there is no way of getting a c4 unless u are high up in a gang or you pay more than 1mil for it. I think these things should be available to the public. Like starting with smaller crimes.. hitting a store/ robbing a house can get you a certain item that you will then need for a life invader or a certain fleeca... 

Things that you could make only available to certain gangs are the Methylamine barrels, maybe limit cocaine to certain gangs. That way you control a certain drug but for other gangs there is still another option.. This would just be for drugs I guess this could be done for guns aswell.

This post is related to mine a lot which is good.

 

[Atles]

I personally hate the fact that even as a normal gang member right now there is no way of getting a c4 unless u are high up in a gang or you pay more than 1mil for it. I think these things should be available to the public. Like starting with smaller crimes.. hitting a store/ robbing a house can get you a certain item that you will then need for a life invader or a certain fleeca... 

You need to make those connections in role play to find a better dealers for said C4. Not only that, there is a reason why its so expensive. To give the police a break. It is a lot of risk for a large pay-out. There is that risk / reward you need to remember. The big bank should not be a every day event. In my personal opinion. 

The cops got to drop what they are doing to respond to it. That is every cop if i am correct. Will get very annoying, very quickly if the price was lower and easier to get.

 

[Bmav]

Both the points made by stumpy and chuck is exactly what i was thinking, in terms of how gangs are right now, ego plays a huge aspect and instead of thinking of the business side they will use their power in a negative way and a lot of clash will fall from it, so in terms of gangs having power/purpose it will need to be trusted to them and essentially leaving it to whitelisted factions like the firm and lost mc makes sense, however there should be a trial and gangs should have the chance. Simply put noone will know the outcome, another thing being is wars will have so much more to it and a better rp behind it as fighting any gangs could affect business and will have to have a serious thought about it. All in all its something that could change the server and for the better of it and ofc it its not it could easily be reverted. 

I completly agree if gangs actually have something to gain or lose from a war they will think twice about doing random wars and there will be more reasoning between beef and more RP purpose behind it instead of starting a full on war for somthing small people will actually use it as a last resort like it should have been to begin with.

If gangs get something unique start fucking it up in terms of how they are using the stuff they get, might aswell remove the stuff from them.

 

[ricosky]

This does seem like a pretty good idea to revitalise the rp of gangs, however there is a good reason why the Lost and Firm receive exclusive whitelists: they are mostly run by staff and devs which means they can trust themselves to adjust the server balance. So maybe giving gangs completely exclusive whitelists might upset the balance of roleplay. I personally think it would be good if the values of certain drugs were readjusted and different gangs received ways to manufacture different drugs. Preferably their rivals would get the same drug to promote competition among the rival groups.

 

[Edwago - R Henderson]

I like your ideas and agree.

Maybe each official gang could get thier own craftables that people would want, be that weapon attachments ( silencers, Exstended mags, Grips etc ) or Melee weapons or Drugs as youve suggested.

Maybe some gangs could get the option to scrap cars for money, people could bring us cars to get paid, and the list of cars to steal gets changed each storm or something, Gives everyone another ilegal avenue for income, maybe each gang wants a specific type of car so people can choose who they want to work for. ( sports / trucks / supers etc )

 

[Nikolai]

i don't mind the idea per say, but i think all the official gang leads(Triads, mara, ballas, so on) would need to discuss this privately first before going further with it.

 

[Edwago - R Henderson]

i don't mind the idea per say, but i think all the official gang leads(Triads, mara, ballas, so on) would need to discuss this privately first before going further with it.

I agree, just throwing ideas, as said before some of these ideas could effect the city economy especially if handled incorrectly, so there would have to be close monitoring and contact between the gang leads and staff to ensure everything is fair and going in the right direction as intended. Some gangs may not even want to, but would love to see some of the above suggestions get looked into  

 

[Anthony Bryan]

Love reading through these suggestions haha

 

[KennethZoid]

I appreciate everyones opinions on this, i agree maybe it would have to monitored for a bit to make sure people wouldn’t abuse it. It was just an initial idea really!

Also if there was a way to include civ/gang RP that would be cool I think. Currently I think a lot of gangs would rather RP with other gangs and just kinda ignore your average joe. For example you go to the Triads for information on LC9 software or Ballas for information on getting a drug to sell.

I am glad a lot of people agree that gangs definitely need looking at and changing a bit though!

 

[Gutzy]

+1 The idea of trade and ties between gangs would have a purpose and gang wars would have better reasoning behind them.