Report a player - 820 , 655 - GTA RP

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Archie Wett
Reported Players: 820 , 655
Date: Jan 14, 2025
Time: 01:30
What best describes this incident: G3.1
Please (in detail) describe the incident: I was out with a friend robbing and we had spotted someone panning. We went down and put him in zip ties then had a check on what we wanted to rob. next thing you know this fella comes flying out bush on a bike and starts shooting which at first I thought was abit mad considering the secluded location we was at so I then ask for these fellas to come QE and what was explained was that they was at their house where they share storage, And the shooter was previously with him but he went away to go and buy something and come back to put it in there shared storage . But what I'm struggling to understand is that at 3:35 I can hear a bike going past then at 3:52 you immediately seen going down the stairs to hide in a bush so in 17 seconds you have completed your task of putting your stuff away and also spotted your mate being robbed.

Please could 655 provide a clip of your pov
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/ju886SJg5jzgJc3DK?invite=cr-MSxkRkksMTg2MDY5OTY5LA

Hello I'm the fella who arrived to the scene on the bike.

Sadly I didn't have any recording software open at the time.

So to give some context as to why I was in that area, at that time:

Myself, my mate Dan and our good pal Leo are currently working together to try and buy a shop. In order to make the connections required to be in a position to buy a shop in the first place, Leo has been putting in a lot of work for Luchetti's restaurant and getting facetime with the "high society" of RPUK via working at Hardwick PDM.

Dan and Leo bought a container together near the Chumash clothing store, and I have recently (yesterday/day before) paid them some money to get access to this container. They are filling it with vegetables and food stuff, not really my bag, but I thought it would be worth chipping in to have some more storage options.

With working for Luchetti's as a supplier, Leo has been getting lists of items that he, Dan and myself go and gather to then sell to them. Order of the day was for clams.

As a result, Dan has been working hard panning to collect up the clams and often pans at the beach behind Leo's house (to which he has access). I know this in character, having been to see the house and talked about the potential for fishing/panning with both Leo and Dan. They have previously fished in this same location independently.

Last night, I had been selling guns, drugs, all sorts of stuff, and was on my way to the (new to me) container near Chumash to deposit some of my ill gotten gains.
I'd arrived at the container and realized I didn't have the code to hand. Not wanting to spend ages scrolling through texts for a code that may or may not be there, I thought to just go and see if Dan was still panning, to ask for the code from him.

I travelled over the back hill near the clothing shop to the pier, and this is where I saw my mate being put into zipties.
I waited a bit to see if i recognized who it was, or what was really going on. When you loaded him into the car, I knew I wouldn't be able to keep up with a sultan on my bike, and so used this moment to approach and ask "what are you boys doing".

Expectedly, I was met with hostility and a gun pointed at me, which you then shot at me first - so I shot you and your pal, saving my mate Dan. After you were shot, immediately you called me to QE in LOOC and refused to provide any further RP. Not acting your injuries, answering my questions, or giving any indication you were even still at your computer. I told you I would join when the RP is over to which you also expressed your unhappiness with the ongoing RP, or lack thereof from your perspective.

*But what I'm struggling to understand is that at 3:35 I can hear a bike going past then at 3:52 you immediately seen going down the stairs to hide in a bush so in 17 seconds you have completed your task of putting your stuff away and also spotted your mate being robbed.*

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To address the above:

1. I can't hear a bike in the clip. Are you sure you're not hearing a local car - seems to sound like a Duke or some kinda muscle car to me. Not sure what bearing this has on the report.
2. I didn't end up depositing anything into the container at that time, as when I approached I realized I didn't have the code to hand. I thought asking Dan would be quicker than digging through all my texts.
3. You saw (or maybe not due to being in a boot, not sure) that after you were downed, I passed some things to Dan to put away for me, as it obviously wasn't a great idea to have him stood there texting me a code or to say it out loud.

Hi pal I was the one in zip ties.

Darren and I had spoken about the need for clams as Luchetti’s pays good money for them. I was panning behind a house that our friend Leo shares with me, and that Darren is getting keys to, when we are all around and not doing other stuff. Our storage container is also close by - that's why I was panning there and we also fish there.

What happened last night was unfortunate timing on everybody's part and I can understand why you have come to the conclusion you have.

It's sad to see this has come to a report after explaining in QE. I can assure you that after 4 years on RPUK, we have a good understanding of the rules and would not risk all of our past progression for a 1911 and some clams.

I believe the rest of the context is in the post above and I will leave it here for staff to comment.

Who is Leo? @Thud

Leo (Leonardo Hurp) is a friend of mine and Dan’s from our Marabunta days back in 2021. My character Darren was in the same gang as him back then while Dan had a different character back then he has since met Leo in RP and become friends on his new character.

He has been away from the server for a long while (voluntarily) but recently came back and has been exploring the new developments to the civ/legal side of RP

Thud said:

I can't hear a bike in the clip. Are you sure you're not hearing a local car - seems to sound like a Duke or some kinda muscle car to me. Not sure what bearing this has on the report.

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If you listen closely you cant hear the bike it self however u can hear you coming up that road there is a sound q like a banging noise. The reasoning to why I mentioned it because it shows how long you was in the area for.

Thud said:

I didn't end up depositing anything into the container at that time, as when I approached I realized I didn't have the code to hand. I thought asking Dan would be quicker than digging through all my texts.

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I find this hard to believe that you would come down to see him to get the code surely you would massage him or ask over phone or radio?? Also if its a new container to you surely that code would of been sent to you recently? times in the past where I have been given a code I would put that in my notes maybe that's just me.

Thud said:

I travelled over the back hill near the clothing shop to the pier, and this is where I saw my mate being put into zipties.

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Yet again I find it hard to believe that you seen me I mean with all the houses in the way , also you would of been at quite a distance up at that clothing store I feel like it would of been hard to see what was going on did you really determine within a few seconds that your friend was getting robbed? Why did you go up to the clothing store and take the back hill down to the pier surely you would of taken the road that turns left or even just come down the the sandy hill before the houses it almost feels like u took that route so you could avoid being spotted.

Thud said:

Expectedly, I was met with hostility and a gun pointed at me, which you then shot at me first - so I shot you and your pal, saving my mate Dan. After you were shot, immediately you called me to QE in LOOC and refused to provide any further RP. Not acting your injuries, answering my questions, or giving any indication you were even still at your computer. I told you I would join when the RP is over to which you also expressed your unhappiness with the ongoing RP, or lack thereof from your perspective.

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This is a far stretch . You said very little yourself , all you said was ''don't rob a hustler you pussy'' and after this you went to get your friend out of the car. Following this you instantly ocean dumped my friend then came over to me to ask what my name was to which I didn't reply (maybe because I had been shot down) , then told your mate that you was going to dodgy me. I was then shoved in a boot for around 20 minutes and during that period of time I received not a word or even a /me. I then found my self what seemed to be an ocean. I asked about this and I was told that you couldn't find a dodgy doctor.

Dan Wallace said:

It's sad to see this has come to a report after explaining in QE. I can assure you that after 4 years on RPUK, we have a good understanding of the rules and would not risk all of our past progression for a 1911 and some clams.

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In QE was told by @Thud that I got 'smoked' and if I wasn't happy to go and make a report.

Also may I add @Thud did you write your response yourself or did someone else?

I find this hard to believe that you would come down to see him to get the code surely you would massage him or ask over phone or radio?? Also if its a new container to you surely that code would of been sent to you recently? times in the past where I have been given a code I would put that in my notes maybe that's just me.

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I have access to a few containers and I didn't prioritize saving the code immediately because I have access to other, closer locations with more in them. This was a glorified fridge, and I intended to begin depositing little things such as mags and guns just to spread my belongings in case of losing access to a container/one getting compromised.

Yet again I find it hard to believe that you seen me I mean with all the houses in the way , also you would of been at quite a distance up at that clothing store I feel like it would of been hard to see what was going on did you really determine within a few seconds that your friend was getting robbed? Why did you go up to the clothing store and take the back hill down to the pier surely you would of taken the road that turns left or even just come down the the sandy hill before the houses it almost feels like u took that route so you could avoid being spotted.

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Due to the location of said container it's quicker to approach via the grass and hop the wall rather than going in front of the clothing store or going on the road. It's the most direct route.

I then took the direct route from behind the clothing store, straight down the steep hill (on a bike) to the pier, using the stairs next to the shop. I did this because it would give me a good view of the beach and answer my question as to whether Dan was still there panning. Before I even reached the pier itself I saw my friend being put into zipties/a car through the gap at the bottom of the stairs, behind the houses, looking south toward the city.

Archie789 said:

This is a far stretch . You said very little yourself , all you said was ''don't rob a hustler you pussy'' and after this you went to get your friend out of the car. Following this you instantly ocean dumped my friend then came over to me to ask what my name was to which I didn't reply (maybe because I had been shot down) , then told your mate that you was going to doggy me. I was then shoved in a boot for around 20 minutes and during that period of time I received not a word or even a /me. I then found my self what seemed to be an ocean. I asked about this and I was told that you couldn't find a doggy doctor.

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Because my friend was in zips, my priority was getting him freed. I didn't have a knife, and so had to acquire a blade or scissors. This meant a trip to the nearby shop. Logs can confirm this.

I knew managing two bodies where one would have to be in a back seat and could be spotted/shout to nearby cars would be too much of a risk, so I dumped your friend in the convenient location (the sea 20 metres away) that was present. I attempted further roleplay ("Are you fuckin stupid, you gonna try rob a hustler? PUSSIO") with you but received nothing back except your comments in LOOC so I thought best to give you some time to calm down and come to terms with the situation we were in. You were also in a boot and weren't easy to roleplay with at that time.

Despite roleplaying as a Hustlers gangster, known for the successful gay club Tequi-la-la - I had no intentions of "Doggy"ing you. Doggy doctors would be a vet, and this is not what was required in this instance.

Archie789 said:

In QE was told by @Thud that I got 'smoked' and if I wasn't happy to go and make a report.

Also may I add @Thud did you write your response yourself or did someone else?

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In QE you were aggressive and held tightly to your initial opinion without listening to any of my reasoning. I told you if you felt the need to report that you could do so, but I felt you were just upset you got "smoked".

You may add what you want, but if you spent the 5 minutes it takes to check my previous posts on this forum you would see that I'm capable of stringing a couple of sentences together without dribbling all over my keyboard. I wrote it myself.

I do have to ask though, it took you quite some time to respond to my comments, which were posted within 12 hours of the initial report (while I was at work, as to not drag things out longer than they need to). Did you have some assistance in writing your responses here?

I feel I've addressed all of your concerns and you continue to fish for an out, so for now I will leave this until asked to comment by staff.

Edit: Clarification on the author of this, and all posts on my account.

So I've spent some time looking into this and essentially, with all the evidence provided, I don't believe there's enough here to substantiate a metagaming claim.

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